Part One:
Identify the S.O.A.P.S. for each side of the battle. Label each as Shakespeare and Dr, Seuss.
Part Two:
Identify at least two logical fallacies that each author's side makes. State each logical fallacy and then state why it is a logical fallacy.
Response due before class on Wednesday.
Classmate response: instead of a response to a classmate, respond to yourself. Our discussion on Wednesday will have clarified some of the fallacies and the S.O.A.P.S. If you feel that you correctly labeled everything, then congratulate yourself on a job well-done. However, if you want to add to parts One or Two in order to create a more complete analysis, then this is your chance. Your initial response and response to yourself will be graded as follows:
Initial response: 2 points
Following directions in initial response: 2 points
Response to self on time: 2 points
Response to self accurately identifies mistakes in original post (if any): 4 points
Response to self due by Friday, October 24th at 5pm.
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ReplyDeleteSubject: Dr Seuss vs. Shakespeare
ReplyDeleteOccasion: Rap Battle
Audience: People watching YouTube
Purpose: To debate who was a greater writer.
Shakespeare logical fallacies: Calling Dr Seuss a crook and saying that his work is predictable. This is a logical fallacy because there is no evidence showing either of these claims.
Dr Seuss Logical Fallacies: Saying that Shakespeare’s writing actually kills people because it is boring, and that people aren’t smart enough to understand what he wrote so he would have to translate it. These are logical fallacies because there is no evidence, and he is making a generalization assuming that everyone would need the work translated for them to understand.
Dr Seuss:
DeleteSubject: says he is a better writer than Shakespeare
Occasion: Rap battle
Audience: youtube viewers
Purpose: to try and prove he is a better writer
Shakespeare Logical Fallacy: claiming that Dr. Seuss's work was written by a child on drugs, because there is no evidence.
Dr. suess: Claiming he can entertain all children can't be proven, some kids may not enjoy his books.
Dr.Suess
ReplyDeleteSubject-
Comparison of Vocabulary between Dr. Seuss and William Shakespeare.
Occasion-
Rap Battle
Audience-
YouTube Subscribers.
Purpose-
To entertain the audience with a rap of comparison in language between shakespheres Englishmen vocabulary and
Dr.Suess's simple word usage.
Speaker-
Cat in the Hat and Thing One and Two.
Logical Fallacies- “Even Horton doesn’t want to hear you.” How could Cat in the Hat represent Horton ideas of William Shakespeare?
“You bore people to death.” This is opinionated and has no evidence to back it up.
William Shakespeare
Subject-
The sophistication of William Shakespeare writings.
Occasion-
Rap Battle
Audience-YouTube Subscribers.
Purpose-
To humor the audience with familiar characters and to show how their vocabulary is different, but still retain
Similar meaning.
Speaker-
William Shakespeare.
Logical Fallacies- “You’re an old white Soulja Boy who has no swag.” This is name calling and has no direct relation to the subject itself.
“You’re pathetically predictable.” Lacking evidence and credibility.
I think that my subject was incorrect, instead it should have been Rap Battles between Dr.Suess and William Shakespeare. I listed some logical fallacies, but this video has many fallacies like, “I’ve never seen a softer author.” William Shakespeare has no evidence to factually say that about Dr.Suess.
DeleteShakespeare
ReplyDelete-Subject Rap battle vs. Dr. Seuss.
-Occasion Epic Rap Battle of History.
-Audience Dr. Seuss and his creations as well as being on Youtube.
-Purpose Demonstration of superior author.
-Speaker Shakespeare himself.
-Logical Fallacies in Shakespeare argument are left begging the question and sweeping generalizations seen by "My shit is classic." and "...drafted by a kinder gardener on acid".
Dr. Seuss
-Subject Rap battle vs. Shakespeare.
-Occasion Epic Rap Battle of History.
-Audience Shakespeare as well as being on Youtube.
-Purpose Demonstration of superior author.
-Speaker Dr.Seuss is present the speakers where The Cat in The Hat and his Things 1&2.
-Logical Fallacies where begging the question and non sequitur seen by"Boring ass play's." and "You leave a class looking like the end of Mcbeth".
Shakespeare
ReplyDeleteS - Rap Battle against Dr. Seuss
O - Rap Battle
A - Youtubers, people who watch youtube videos
P - To show that his work in the past is the best, even today.
“Your patheticall predictable” and “drafted by a kindergartner on acid” have no evidence in any shape or form. There just insults that are not backed up by facts.
Dr. Seuss
S - Rap Battle against Shakespeare
O - Rap Battle
A - Youtubers, people who watch youtube videos
P - To show that his work in the past is the best, even today.
“You leave a class looking like the end of MacBeth” and that his writing is to hard to understand for people. These are logical fallacies because there is no evidence to say that classes actually “die” from reading his stuff. Again, there just insults to make the viewer agree.
Shakespeare
ReplyDeleteS: rap battle vs Dr. Suess
O: rap battle
A: YouTube subscribers
P: determining which author was superior in language usage.
S: William Shakespeare
Logical Fallacies: "drafted by a kindergartener on acid" and "you bore people to death" have no logical evidence to be supported, however they are both somewhat effective coming from the source.
Dr. Sues
S: rap battle vs Shakespeare
O: rap battle
A: YouTube subscribers
P: determining which author was superior in language usage.
S: Dr. Seuss, things one and two, and the cat in the hat.
Logical fallacies: begging the question with "boring ass plays" and "an old white Soulja boy who has no swag."
Shakespeare:
ReplyDeleteS. Word challenge against a writer of kids’ stories.
O. Epic Rap Battle of History
A. College Students/History Buffs into rap music/YouTubers
P. To challenge vocabulary differences.
S. William Shakespeare
Fallacies:
“I hath been iambic on that ass” =Ad Hominem Statement focuses on Shakespeare (iambic poetry writer) not claim "....on that ass"
“Think your new book might include a trisyllabic meter or ghetto Muppet creatures?” =Shifting the Issue Question contains a truth (Seuss uses trisyllabic writing), but attention is drawn away from truth with 2nd part of question.
“The Bard is in the building” =Sweeping Generalization Drawing a conclusion without sufficient evidence.
Both sides have many fallacies. I chose these specific ones mainly because i didn't know what iambic, trisyllabic, or bard meant. after looking them up, i believe i chose the correct type of fallacy for each, according to Inquiry readings. I welcome input or feedback, of course.
DeleteDr. Seuss:
ReplyDeleteS: Challenge of writing: fun vs. boring.
O: Epic Rap Battle of History
A: College Students/History Buffs into rap music.
P: To challenge vocabulary differences between historical English poet and writer of kids' books.
S: Portrayers of Dr. Seuss/Things 1 and 2
Fallacies:
"You bore people to death"=Confusing Cause and Effect There is no way to know death is an outcome of reading or listening to Shakespeare.
"Break a foot off in your ass with our feetie pajamas" =Appeal to Fear through irrational fears.
"All does not end well when we bust out our cage" =Hasty Generalization A conclusion drawn with an insignificant sample of support.
According to my reading and understanding, i believe i chose the appropriate types of fallacies. These do seem to fit a couple different. Please guide me if i am on the wrong track. Very interesting video that contained many types of fallacies. i feel more confident in my understanding, but hope to get feedback if i seem to not get it.
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